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Hey Andro! We've Got Him!
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Henry Wilson DSc
2010-11-03 22:11:38 UTC
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It might have taken twenty years to find the killing blow but it was quite
simple in the end. My clock paradox did the trick.
Nope .. you've not done any "trick". As usual you are a just a poor
deluded liar.
Please explain..



Henry Wilson...

.......SR = TEL
Henry Wilson DSc
2010-11-04 05:13:07 UTC
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It might have taken twenty years
So you've been wasting your time (and everyone else's) for 20 years
trying to find a flaw or self-contradiction in SR .. and you still
haven't done it.
After 20 years the best you can come up with is that if you move two
synchronized clocks apart symmetrically, they remain in sync in their
original rest frame (the well known procedure for getting remote
synchronized clocks), and when you move them back together
symmetrically, they still remain in sync .. exactly what SR predicts
and not at all self-contradictory.
You don't even know your own theory.

SR specifically says that a clock runs slow in the inertial frame in which it
is moving.

C1 is moving inertially in C2's frame. C2 is moving inertially in C1/s frame.

Therefore, according to SR, C1 runs slow compared to C1 and C1 runs slow
compared to C2.

SR plainly contradicts itself with a logical impossibility.
If you can't find an actual flaw or self-contradiction in SR after 20
years, you should give up.
if you don't even understand the theory behind the H&K experiment you can
hardly claim to know anything about SR.
Remember, the clock that was flown around the earth was moving in the Earth's
inertial frame and was therefore claimed to run slow.
My experiment does exactly the same for each clock...and exposes the stupidity
of SR for all to see.


Henry Wilson...

.......SR = TEL
Darwin123
2010-11-06 14:24:00 UTC
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Post by Henry Wilson DSc
It might have taken twenty years
So you've been wasting your time (and everyone else's) for 20 years
trying to find a flaw or self-contradiction in SR .. and you still
haven't done it.
After 20 years the best you can come up with is that if you move two
synchronized clocks apart symmetrically, they remain in sync in their
original rest frame (the well known procedure for getting remote
synchronized clocks), and when you move them back together
symmetrically, they still remain in sync .. exactly what SR predicts
and not at all self-contradictory.
You don't even know your own theory.
SR specifically says that a clock runs slow in the inertial frame in which it
is moving.
C1 is moving inertially in C2's frame. C2 is moving inertially in C1/s frame.
Therefore, according to SR, C1 runs slow compared to C1 and C1 runs slow
compared to C2.
SR plainly contradicts itself with a logical impossibility.
If you can't find an actual flaw or self-contradiction in SR after 20
years, you should give up.
if you don't even understand the theory behind the H&K experiment you can
hardly claim to know anything about SR.
Yes. You (Henry Wilson) don't understand the theory behind the H&K
experiment so you can't claim to understand SR.
Post by Henry Wilson DSc
Remember, the clock that was flown around the earth was moving in the Earth's
inertial frame and was therefore claimed to run slow.
The clocks on the earths surface were not in the "earths inertial
frame". They were accelerating relative to the earths center. Each
clock had a different acceleration.
Using the earth's center as an inertial frame was the
approximation that H&K used. The acceleration of the earths center
relative to an inertial frame is too small to effect anything. I
notice that you didn't call that one.
However, the acceleration of the clocks on the earths surface was
implicit of the H&K mathematics. The clocks on the earths surface were
different due to the different accelerations.
You like Newtonian mechanics. Fine. Calculate the centripetal
acceleration of each clock. You will see they are different. Then look
at Hafele's relativistic calculations.
The Galilean formula for centripetal acceleration is:
a=v^2/r
where a is the centripetal acceleration and v is the velocity of the
revolving whatever relative to the center of rotation. The "v" for
each airplane, and for the clock fixed on the surface, is different.
It is the centripetal acceleration that breaks the symmetry between
clocks.
Post by Henry Wilson DSc
My experiment does exactly the same for each clock...and exposes the stupidity
of SR for all to see.
Exposes your stupidity for all to see. That is why your reply
was posted on alt.morons.
BTW: I didn't post your replies there. I don't know who did. I
replied just so people who read your post will know why you are a
moron.
Henry Wilson DSc
2010-11-09 22:05:55 UTC
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Test of GR.
Synchronize two identical horizontal light clocks side-by-side
and leave to run for 6 months in two identical chest freezers
(for environmental control). Note any relative drift.
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Place one horizontal light clock at the top of the Burj Khalifa
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and leave the other at the base. Leave to run for 6 months.
Bring the clocks together again, note any relative drift.
If the clocks DO read the same count (with drift allowed) then NIST
got it wrong, there was no time dilation due to altitude difference.
Such experiments have been done already .. and there is a difference
Such experiments have been done by geologists for years, using pendulums.
...and there is a difference.
If the clocks do NOT read the same count (with drift allowed) due to
time dilation then NIST got it wrong, the speed of light cannot be a
universal constant.
It means no such thing. The speed of light is the same (locally) everywhere
in GR. That does not mean that an observer will measure the speed of light
at some remote location (or locations) at a different gravitational
potential as being c .. in fact GR predicts in general that it won't. How
can you think that experimental results that show what GR predicts proves GR
wrong ?
GR predicts nothing but bullshit.

Like pendulums, some clocks and pendulums are sensitive to gravitational
potential.....nothing to do with Einstein's crap...


Henry Wilson...

.......SR = TEL

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