LENGTH IS NOT SHORTENING IN EINSTEIN RELATIVITY

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Uncle Ben

2009-06-14 16:44:28 UTC

LENGTH IS NOT
SHORTENING IN EINSTEIN RELATIVITY

<< in 1907 Einstein criticized the "ad hoc" character
of Lorentz's contraction hypothesis in his theory
of electrons, because according to him it was only
invented to rescue the hypothesis of an immobile
ether.>>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node49.html
<<... the four-dimensional space-time continuum
of the theory of relativity, in its most essential
formal properties, shows a pronounced relationship
to the three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean
geometrical space. 1 In order to give due prominence
to this relationship, however, we must replace
the usual time co-ordinate t by an imaginary
magnitude
sqrt(-1)
ct proportional to it. Under these conditions,
the natural laws satisfying the demands of the
(special) theory of relativity assume mathematical
forms, in which the time co-ordinate plays exactly
the same role as the three space co-ordinates.
>>http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html
Sue...

Wow! Looks like three votes for Lorentz lengthing, contrary to
relativist dogma.
Still there are thousands on the other side. Maybe better take
another look?
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What's with the "maybe", fuckwit?
is 2 = 1/0.5 too difficult that maybe we should question it?- Hide quoted text -
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Uncle Ben

2009-06-14 22:06:53 UTC

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LENGTH IS NOT
SHORTENING IN EINSTEIN RELATIVITY

http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html

Sue...

London, 14 June 2099 (Exclusive to Imaginary News Service)
Mr. John Parker, aka "Androcles", announced today that results of his
analysis of trainspotter reports proves that England has the longest
choo-choo train known to man, stretching from Sheffield to London.
Specifically, Mr. Basil Wellington spotted train number 421 heading
into Paddington Station at 5:25 PM, last Saturday.
But Mrs. Hermione Spruce had earlier reported to Androcles that
security cameras in Sheffield station show the caboose of this very
train passing by the end of the central platform of the station at
exactly noon on Friday.
Mr. Parker says that he plans to submit this finding to the Guiness
Book of World Records.
(Story relayed by "Uncle Ben")
===============================================
Little boy Master Green (aka "Uncle Bonehead") doesn't know
Sheffield in the North serviced by King's Cross, from Bristol in the
West serviced by Paddington, or a guard's van from a caboose.
Not only that but he is so stupidly incompetent he calls l0 divided
by something less than 1 a "Mijnheer Lorentz's contraction", even
though it was written by the cretin Herr Einstein.
" The so called Length contraction without expansion perpendicularly to the
line of motion and by the precise value
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (where l0 is the length at rest in the ether) was
given by Larmor in 1897 and by Lorentz in 1904"
Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Lorentz) is NOT
l = l0 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Einstein)
since '*' (multiply) is not '/' (divide).
Ergo Mr. Bonehead Green R.Sc. is a lying pile of ignorant worthless shit
and a troll and would do well to shut the fuck up.
(R. Sc. - Redneck of Science)
-- Facts relayed by Dr. Parker, mathematician.- Hide quoted text -
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Ha! Mathematician ?? Smallest real greater than zero? No.

And Doctor? I would be amazed to know what university with a plausible
web site will confirm that claim. Is that legal in England to claim
falsely to have a Ph. D.?

Or maybe it is a Doctor of Phrenology.

Uncle Ben

Maybe we should take this to alt.flame.

Uncle Ben

2009-06-15 14:21:52 UTC

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LENGTH IS NOT
SHORTENING IN EINSTEIN RELATIVITY

http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html

Sue...

London, 14 June 2099 (Exclusive to Imaginary News Service)
Mr. John Parker, aka "Androcles", announced today that results of his
analysis of trainspotter reports proves that England has the longest
choo-choo train known to man, stretching from Sheffield to London.
Specifically, Mr. Basil Wellington spotted train number 421 heading
into Paddington Station at 5:25 PM, last Saturday.
But Mrs. Hermione Spruce had earlier reported to Androcles that
security cameras in Sheffield station show the caboose of this very
train passing by the end of the central platform of the station at
exactly noon on Friday.
Mr. Parker says that he plans to submit this finding to the Guiness
Book of World Records.
(Story relayed by "Uncle Ben")
===============================================
Little boy Master Green (aka "Uncle Bonehead") doesn't know
Sheffield in the North serviced by King's Cross, from Bristol in the
West serviced by Paddington, or a guard's van from a caboose.
Not only that but he is so stupidly incompetent he calls l0 divided
by something less than 1 a "Mijnheer Lorentz's contraction", even
though it was written by the cretin Herr Einstein.
" The so called Length contraction without expansion perpendicularly to
the
line of motion and by the precise value
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (where l0 is the length at rest in the ether) was
given by Larmor in 1897 and by Lorentz in 1904"
Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Lorentz) is NOT
l = l0 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Einstein)
since '*' (multiply) is not '/' (divide).
Ergo Mr. Bonehead Green R.Sc. is a lying pile of ignorant worthless shit
and a troll and would do well to shut the fuck up.
(R. Sc. - Redneck of Science)
-- Facts relayed by Dr. Parker, mathematician.- Hide quoted text -
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Ha!
=========================
Fuck off, you are proven liar as well as a proven idiot.
Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Lorentz) is NOT
l = l0 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Einstein)
since '*' (multiply) is not '/' (divide).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Uncle Ben

2009-06-15 17:28:03 UTC

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LENGTH IS NOT
SHORTENING IN EINSTEIN RELATIVITY

http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html

Sue...

London, 14 June 2099 (Exclusive to Imaginary News Service)
Mr. John Parker, aka "Androcles", announced today that results of his
analysis of trainspotter reports proves that England has the longest
choo-choo train known to man, stretching from Sheffield to London.
Specifically, Mr. Basil Wellington spotted train number 421 heading
into Paddington Station at 5:25 PM, last Saturday.
But Mrs. Hermione Spruce had earlier reported to Androcles that
security cameras in Sheffield station show the caboose of this very
train passing by the end of the central platform of the station at
exactly noon on Friday.
Mr. Parker says that he plans to submit this finding to the Guiness
Book of World Records.
(Story relayed by "Uncle Ben")
===============================================
Little boy Master Green (aka "Uncle Bonehead") doesn't know
Sheffield in the North serviced by King's Cross, from Bristol in the
West serviced by Paddington, or a guard's van from a caboose.
Not only that but he is so stupidly incompetent he calls l0 divided
by something less than 1 a "Mijnheer Lorentz's contraction", even
though it was written by the cretin Herr Einstein.
" The so called Length contraction without expansion perpendicularly to
the
line of motion and by the precise value
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (where l0 is the length at rest in the ether)
was
given by Larmor in 1897 and by Lorentz in 1904"
Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Lorentz) is NOT
l = l0 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Einstein)
since '*' (multiply) is not '/' (divide).
Ergo Mr. Bonehead Green R.Sc. is a lying pile of ignorant worthless shit
and a troll and would do well to shut the fuck up.
(R. Sc. - Redneck of Science)
-- Facts relayed by Dr. Parker, mathematician.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Ha!
=========================
Fuck off, you are proven liar as well as a proven idiot.
Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Lorentz) is NOT
l = l0 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Einstein)
since '*' (multiply) is not '/' (divide).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Now, John,
=============================================
Talk to me when you can address me properly, you are a proven
liar and a proven idiot.
1) The second postulate of Uncle Bonehead is "the speed of light is the
same in all frames of reference",
2) Uncle Bonehead ridicules Einstein's (t0+t2)/2 = t1 and says it should be
(t1+t2)/2,
3) Dividing by sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) is a "Mr. Lorentz" transform, but Mijnherr
Lorentz multiplied by sqrt(1-v^2/c^2),
4) Einstein's 1905 paper is "heavy sledding",
5) [f((x+h/2)-f(x)] / (h/2) has to be used, [f((x+h)-f(x)] /h isn't good
enough,
6) Uncle Bonehead is the only student in the world that divides h by 2,
7) Mass has gone out of fashion,
8) After 100 years of testing SR can be trusted, although it is still being
tested.- Hide quoted text -
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Uncle Ben

2009-06-16 03:08:01 UTC

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Post by Uncle Ben

LENGTH IS NOT
SHORTENING IN EINSTEIN RELATIVITY

http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html

Sue...

London, 14 June 2099 (Exclusive to Imaginary News Service)
Mr. John Parker, aka "Androcles", announced today that results of his
analysis of trainspotter reports proves that England has the longest
choo-choo train known to man, stretching from Sheffield to London.
Specifically, Mr. Basil Wellington spotted train number 421 heading
into Paddington Station at 5:25 PM, last Saturday.
But Mrs. Hermione Spruce had earlier reported to Androcles that
security cameras in Sheffield station show the caboose of this very
train passing by the end of the central platform of the station at
exactly noon on Friday.
Mr. Parker says that he plans to submit this finding to the Guiness
Book of World Records.
(Story relayed by "Uncle Ben")
===============================================
Little boy Master Green (aka "Uncle Bonehead") doesn't know
Sheffield in the North serviced by King's Cross, from Bristol in the
West serviced by Paddington, or a guard's van from a caboose.
Not only that but he is so stupidly incompetent he calls l0 divided
by something less than 1 a "Mijnheer Lorentz's contraction", even
though it was written by the cretin Herr Einstein.
" The so called Length contraction without expansion perpendicularly
to
the
line of motion and by the precise value
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (where l0 is the length at rest in the ether)
was
given by Larmor in 1897 and by Lorentz in 1904"
Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Lorentz) is NOT
l = l0 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Einstein)
since '*' (multiply) is not '/' (divide).
Ergo Mr. Bonehead Green R.Sc. is a lying pile of ignorant worthless
shit
and a troll and would do well to shut the fuck up.
(R. Sc. - Redneck of Science)
-- Facts relayed by Dr. Parker, mathematician.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Ha!
=========================
Fuck off, you are proven liar as well as a proven idiot.
Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
l = l0 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Lorentz) is NOT
l = l0 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (Einstein)
since '*' (multiply) is not '/' (divide).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Now, John,
=============================================
Talk to me when you can address me properly, you are a proven
liar and a proven idiot.
1) The second postulate of Uncle Bonehead is "the speed of light is the
same in all frames of reference",
2) Uncle Bonehead ridicules Einstein's (t0+t2)/2 = t1 and says it should
be
(t1+t2)/2,
3) Dividing by sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) is a "Mr. Lorentz" transform, but Mijnherr
Lorentz multiplied by sqrt(1-v^2/c^2),
4) Einstein's 1905 paper is "heavy sledding",
5) [f((x+h/2)-f(x)] / (h/2) has to be used, [f((x+h)-f(x)] /h isn't good
enough,
6) Uncle Bonehead is the only student in the world that divides h by 2,
7) Mass has gone out of fashion,
8) After 100 years of testing SR can be trusted, although it is still
being
tested.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Androcles got it wrong trying to argue that the Lorentz Contraction
should
actually be called the Lorentz Expansion.
=================================
Androcles made no such claim, Bonehead is lying as usual.
The idiot Lorentz contraction is the inverse of the lunatic Einstein length
dilation.
Fuck off, moron.- Hide quoted text -
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Strange! When I do it, I get contraction both ways. Maybe it is
because you Brits use the metric system now.