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Odd derivation of the GR gravitational shift formula
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m***@wanadoo.fr
2008-06-07 11:25:28 UTC
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Odd derivation of the GR gravitational shift formula
The derivation is ultimately an odd mixture
of special relativity with a Newtonian formula!
[snip]
xxein1: Correct. But it is a velocity, not a speed - despite Wiki.
Imagine shooting off a projectile tangent to the horizon. It would
spend more time in a greater gravitation before it could escape. That
is why the velocity is perpendicular.
[snip remainder of imbecilic comments]
I think we are just floating in a sea of uncertainty with the gall to
claim a position within it.
Thank you for your comments.
Don't.
They suck big time.
As do yours.
Dirk Vdm
So, you are implying that the relativistic kinetic energy formula
K = mc^2(1/(1-sqrt(v^2/c^2)) - 1) should not be used in
the derivation of the shift.
You are not afraid of contradictions.

Marcel Luttgens
m***@wanadoo.fr
2008-06-07 20:39:10 UTC
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Odd derivation of the GR gravitational shift formula
The derivation is ultimately an odd mixture
of special relativity with a Newtonian formula!
[snip]
xxein1: Correct. But it is a velocity, not a speed - despite Wiki.
Imagine shooting off a projectile tangent to the horizon. It would
spend more time in a greater gravitation before it could escape. That
is why the velocity is perpendicular.
[snip remainder of imbecilic comments]
I think we are just floating in a sea of uncertainty with the gall to
claim a position within it.
Thank you for your comments.
Don't.
They suck big time.
As do yours.
Dirk Vdm
So, you are implying that the relativistic kinetic energy formula
K = mc^2(1/(1-sqrt(v^2/c^2)) - 1) should not be used in
the derivation of the shift.
You are not afraid of contradictions.

Marcel Luttgens
m***@wanadoo.fr
2008-06-07 23:02:36 UTC
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Odd derivation of the GR gravitational shift formula
The derivation is ultimately an odd mixture
of special relativity with a Newtonian formula!
[snip]
xxein1: Correct. But it is a velocity, not a speed - despite Wiki.
Imagine shooting off a projectile tangent to the horizon. It would
spend more time in a greater gravitation before it could escape. That
is why the velocity is perpendicular.
[snip remainder of imbecilic comments]
I think we are just floating in a sea of uncertainty with the gall to
claim a position within it.
Thank you for your comments.
Don't.
They suck big time.
As do yours.
Dirk Vdm
So, you are implying that the relativistic kinetic energy formula
K = mc^2(1/(1-sqrt(v^2/c^2)) - 1) should not be used in
the derivation of the shift.
You are not afraid of contradictions.

Marcel Luttgens
m***@wanadoo.fr
2008-06-07 23:15:48 UTC
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Post by m***@wanadoo.fr
Odd derivation of the GR gravitational shift formula
The derivation is ultimately an odd mixture
of special relativity with a Newtonian formula!
[snip]
xxein1: Correct. But it is a velocity, not a speed - despite Wiki.
Imagine shooting off a projectile tangent to the horizon. It would
spend more time in a greater gravitation before it could escape. That
is why the velocity is perpendicular.
[snip remainder of imbecilic comments]
I think we are just floating in a sea of uncertainty with the gall to
claim a position within it.
Thank you for your comments.
Don't.
They suck big time.
As do yours.
Dirk Vdm
So, you are implying that the relativistic kinetic energy formula
K = mc^2(1/(1-sqrt(v^2/c^2)) - 1) should not be used in
the derivation of the shift.
You are not afraid of contradictions.
Marcel Luttgens
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