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The GPS question relativists are afraid to answer.
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Spaceman
2008-09-10 03:31:58 UTC
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Time dilation" is real...
Let me see...
Granted, the clock is faster in the satellite by 46us per day than on
the ground, after about 1.88 billion years, the clock higher up will
be ahead by one year than on the ground. Thus, in that futuristic
time, if the year on the ground was 2 billion and 8, then the year on
the satellite is 2 billion and 9. Anything wrong with that picture?
That means the satellite has revolved around the sun ahead by one
revolution!
Yes, it would, IF the satellite would carry its OWN PRIVATE
sun-earth system with it, to count ITS OWN PRIVATE years
and revolutions - i.o.w. its OWN PRIVATE (Spaceman-
malfunctioning) CLOCK.
Poor Dirk,
He still can't grasp the stupidity he worships.
:)
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James M Driscoll Jr
Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
Spaceman
Spaceman
2008-09-19 21:18:20 UTC
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It took a dictionary, looked up 'energy'... then it looked up
'conservation', and then it knew the law of energy conservation.
It looked up 'length'... then it looked up 'contraction', and
that's how it learned how 'length contration' is defined in physics.
Look!
Dirk knows how to find out how relativity is wrong yet he
can still not figure it all out!
Must be too many words to look up and understand the use
together.
LOL
Spaceman
2008-09-22 20:12:57 UTC
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more elephants
The question was plain enough: What happens to the clock rate?
If you need elephants, let me humor you. Go ahead, give your
answer and use as many elephants as you like to illustrate it.
Suppose we use the E and M clocks to measure the time between an
elephant's heartbeats. Now M's clock is put in motion relative to
E and the elephant, and again the E and M clocks are used to
measure the time between the same elephant's heartbeat. The E
clock will measure the same time between heartbeats as before.
The M clock will measure more time between the heartbeats
compared with before.
Surely this answers your question.
PD
Not exactly. Your elephant (your timekeeping device) seems to be
occupying a privileged position in E. Your elephant appears
allergic to staying in M.
How would the M clock now measure the heartbeat of the same
elephant if it were in M? I suppose SR should have an answer for
this easy scenario.
If it were in M, then the time between heartbeats as measured on
the M clock would be the same as before.
However, now the time between heartbeats as measured on the E clock
would be more than before.
Let me know if you are finding this hard.
Not at all. Why?-
Good.
The time between heartbeats of the elephant in M, as measured by the
M clock, has remained unchanged.
Yes - Brilliant!
The time between heartbeats of the elephant in M, as measured by the
E clock, has increased.
Yes - Brilliant!
Therefore, the M clock is now running slower compared to the E clock.
Yes - Brilliant, provided you remember what this means.
And the time between heartbeats of a donkey in E, as measured by the E
clock, has remained unchanged.
And the time between heartbeats of a donkey in E, as measured by the M
clock, has increased.
And therefore, the E clock is now running slower compared to the M
clock, provided you remember what this means.
So the physical rate of the clock has changed and is no longer
keeping the same "tick" rate as the "standard" clock.
Poor Dirk,
Still doesn to even understand a simple word like
malfunction.
LOL
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James M Driscoll Jr
Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
Spaceman
i***@gmail.com
2008-09-22 20:18:27 UTC
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On Sep 22, 4:08 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
dirk's version of orgasm
Easy Dirk. The question was for PD. Are you implying he is too
stupid to continue the discussion?

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