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time dilation
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rbwinn
2008-04-12 00:52:30 UTC
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The work of famous scientist Galileo Galilei
surely you mean Dr. Galileo Galilei.
provides us with a
question about time dilation and Dr. Albert Einstein's statement that
the laws of physics must remain the same in all frames of reference.
Galileo
no, you mean Dr. Galileo Galilei.
carried two lead weights of unequal sizes to the top of the
leaning tower of Pisa and dropped them at the same time, disproving
the idea of scientists
you mean "Dr. scientists".
of his time that the heavier of the two weights
would strike the ground first. �Of course, it took some time before
scientists accepted the results of his experiment.
"Dr. scientists".
They did not all
believe in the principle of equivalence the moment the two lead
weights hit the ground.
� � � �This brings us to another question about falling objects which
arises from the idea of dropping an object in a moving train car,
which writers of textbooks
"Dr. writers"!
about relativity often use to show how the
Lorentz equations work.
Surely you mean Dr. Lorentz.
If a weight is dropped from the top of a
train car to the floor, it falls a distance of y'. �In any
transformation equations this is always expressed as y'=y. � The
object travels the same distance vertically in S' as it does in S.
In Galileo's
Dr. Galileo to you.
equations, it takes the same amount of time for the
object to travel from the roof of the train car to the floor in either
frame of reference. �t'=t.
� � In the Lorentz equations,
no, it is "Dr. Lorentz equations".
a clock in S', the frame of reference
of the train car, is slower than a clock in S, the frame of reference
of the train tracks.
t'=(t-vx/c^)/sqrt(1-v2/c^2). �According to this equation, it takes
less time for the object to fall from the roof of the train car to the
floor in S' than it does in S. �So how are the laws of physics the
same in both frames of reference?
� � �If a clock in S ticks once while an object is falling in the
train car, it will not tick in S' until after the object has hit the
floor. �This means that the object is falling with a faster velocity
in S' than in S.
� � �I am sure that some of our scientific friends
"Dr. scientific friends"!
who believe in a
distance contraction will be anxious to explain this phenomenon.
Robert B. Winn
"Wr. Robert B. Winn", you mean.
Dr. Dirk Vdm
Dear Dr.,
You and Eric Gisse should get together.
You mean Dr. Eric Gisse.
Dr. Dirk Vdm
Eric told me
Dr. Eric, you mean.
Robert B. Winn
Wr. Robert B. Winn, you mean.
Dr. Dirk Vdm
Well, we Americans are probably less formal than you Europeans.
we Dr. Europeans to you.
 I
think it is wonderful that you were able to go to school, though.
Robert B. Winn
Wr. Robert B. Winn, you mean.
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Well, a Dr. should certainly know.
Robert B. Winn
Eregon
2008-04-12 01:02:31 UTC
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On Apr 11, 2:29 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
On Apr 11, 9:11 am, "Dirk Van de moortel"
On Apr 11, 6:34 am, "Dirk Van de moortel"
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The work of famous scientist Galileo Galilei
surely you mean Dr. Galileo Galilei.
provides us with a
question about time dilation and Dr. Albert Einstein's
statement t
hat
the laws of physics must remain the same in all frames of
referenc
e.
Galileo
no, you mean Dr. Galileo Galilei.
carried two lead weights of unequal sizes to the top of the
leaning tower of Pisa and dropped them at the same time,
disprovin
g
the idea of scientists
you mean "Dr. scientists".
of his time that the heavier of the two weights
would strike the ground first. ï¿œOf course, it took some ti
me before
scientists accepted the results of his experiment.
"Dr. scientists".
They did not all
believe in the principle of equivalence the moment the two
lead weights hit the ground.
ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ ᅵThis brings us to another q
uestion about falling objects which
arises from the idea of dropping an object in a moving train
car, which writers of textbooks
"Dr. writers"!
about relativity often use to show how the
Lorentz equations work.
Surely you mean Dr. Lorentz.
If a weight is dropped from the top of a
train car to the floor, it falls a distance of y'. ï¿œIn any
transformation equations this is always expressed as y'=y. ï
¿œ The
object travels the same distance vertically in S' as it does in S.
In Galileo's
Dr. Galileo to you.
equations, it takes the same amount of time for the
object to travel from the roof of the train car to the floor
in ei
ther
frame of reference. ï¿œt'=t.
ᅵ ᅵ In the Lorentz equations,
no, it is "Dr. Lorentz equations".
a clock in S', the frame of reference
of the train car, is slower than a clock in S, the frame of
refere
nce
of the train tracks.
t'=(t-vx/c^)/sqrt(1-v2/c^2). ï¿œAccording to this equation
, it takes
less time for the object to fall from the roof of the train
car to
the
floor in S' than it does in S. ï¿œSo how are the laws of phy
sics the
same in both frames of reference?
ᅵ ᅵ ᅵIf a clock in S ticks once while an o
bject is falling in the
train car, it will not tick in S' until after the object has
hit t
he
floor. ï¿œThis means that the object is falling with a faste
r velocity
in S' than in S.
ᅵ ᅵ ᅵI am sure that some of our scientific
friends
"Dr. scientific friends"!
who believe in a
distance contraction will be anxious to explain this
phenomenon. Robert B. Winn
"Wr. Robert B. Winn", you mean.
Dr. Dirk Vdm
Dear Dr.,
You and Eric Gisse should get together.
You mean Dr. Eric Gisse.
Dr. Dirk Vdm
Eric told me
Dr. Eric, you mean.
Robert B. Winn
Wr. Robert B. Winn, you mean.
Dr. Dirk Vdm
Well, we Americans are probably less formal than you Europeans.
we Dr. Europeans to you.
 I
think it is wonderful that you were able to go to school, though.
Robert B. Winn
Wr. Robert B. Winn, you mean.
Dr. Dirk Vdm- Hide quoted text -
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Well, a Dr. should certainly know.
Robert B. Winn
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