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Wavelength of a moving sodium source is universal and invariant
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k***@erinet.com
2009-08-10 18:23:42 UTC
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Wavelength of a sodium source is universal and invariant.
Every observer measures his sodium source to have a wavelength of 589
nm. Thus 589 nm is the invariant universal wavelength of sodium. This
wavelength is not changed no matter how a sodium source is moving wrt
1. A sodium source is approaching an observer and the observer
measures it's wavelength to be shortened.....shorter than 589 nm.
15 years of intense research and discussion on USENET has taught Ken the
concept of blue shift.
2. The sodium source pass by the observer and the observer measures
its wavlength to be lengthened....longer than 589 nm.
15 years of intense research and discussion on USENET has taught Ken the
concept of red shift.
3. The idea that the wavelength of sodium can be changed by merely
move pass by the observer is beyond the normal accepted logic.
15 years of intense research and discussion on USENET has not, however,
made
Ken understand either red or blue shift.
4. So what causes the change in the measured wavelength of the
incomming sodium light? The answer is that the incoming sodium light
becomes a new light source in the grating's frame and the grating
defines a new wavelength for this new light source.
If we agree, will you finally shut the fuck up?
5. So what does this mean? It means that the wavelength of sodium
light is unchanged during transit. It also means that the measured
incoming frequency of sodium light will determine the arrival speed of
c'=(measured frequency of incoming sodium light)(universal wavelength
of sodium light 589 nm)
Ken Seto
Too bad gratings only measure wavelength as has been explained to you
countless times in the innumerably large amount of times you have asked
since you first started spewing bullshit here in the early 90's.
Hey idiot you didn't read what I said.
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Hey fuckwit, nobody gives a flying fuck what you said. You didn't read what
Doppler said.
Androcles is a piece of shit.
Henry Wilson, DSc
2009-08-14 08:36:56 UTC
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Wavelength of a sodium source is universal and invariant.
Every observer measures his sodium source to have a wavelength of 589
nm. Thus 589 nm is the invariant universal wavelength of sodium. This
wavelength is not changed no matter how a sodium source is moving wrt
1. A sodium source is approaching an observer and the observer
measures it's wavelength to be shortened.....shorter than 589 nm.
15 years of intense research and discussion on USENET has taught Ken the
concept of blue shift.
2. The sodium source pass by the observer and the observer measures
its wavlength to be lengthened....longer than 589 nm.
15 years of intense research and discussion on USENET has taught Ken the
concept of red shift.
3. The idea that the wavelength of sodium can be changed by merely
move pass by the observer is beyond the normal accepted logic.
15 years of intense research and discussion on USENET has not, however,
made
Ken understand either red or blue shift.
4. So what causes the change in the measured wavelength of the
incomming sodium light? The answer is that the incoming sodium light
becomes a new light source in the grating's frame and the grating
defines a new wavelength for this new light source.
If we agree, will you finally shut the fuck up?
5. So what does this mean? It means that the wavelength of sodium
light is unchanged during transit. It also means that the measured
incoming frequency of sodium light will determine the arrival speed of
c'=(measured frequency of incoming sodium light)(universal wavelength
of sodium light 589 nm)
Ken Seto
Too bad gratings only measure wavelength as has been explained to you
countless times in the innumerably large amount of times you have asked
since you first started spewing bullshit here in the early 90's.
Hey idiot you didn't read what I said.
============================
Hey fuckwit, nobody gives a flying fuck what you said. You didn't read what
Doppler said.
A) http://tinyurl.com/lv2fl7
B) http://tinyurl.com/njgouh
C) http://tinyurl.com/klkfc9
D) http://tinyurl.com/l6lt4g
1) applies to light (in vacuum) and sound (in air)
2) applies to light but not sound
3) applies to sound but not light
4) applies to neither light nor sound
Ken is basically right.

The wavelength of a particular monochromatic light, when measured in the source
frame, defines an absolute spatial interval. It is the distance traveled by a
photon during one intrinsic oscillation cycle.

When a light beam strikes a grating, this is what happens:
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'lambda' is the absolute wavelength as defined above.


Henry Wilson...www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

........the broad picture specialist.
Henry Wilson, DSc
2009-08-14 08:39:18 UTC
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it feels absurd
and i think u have to thought once again for the problem
have u read the dopplers effect
u r just saying that wavelength of sodium is invariant but speed of
light not
and all that without any solid reasoning
the the change in wavelength of sodium light is experimentally verified
1. The incoming sodium light becomes a new light source in the
grating's frame and the grating defines a new wavelength for this new
light source. Much like the grating defines a wavelength for any
light
source in its frame.....such as sodium, mercury, h-alpha....etc.
2. The observed doppler shift is the result of different arrival
speed
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Speed = distance/time. WaveLENGTH is a distance.
Change relative speed and you change relative wavelength, as
Doppler observed.
Hahahha.... silly old pom...That's the doppler shift at the SOURCE for a wave
in a medium.
A) http://tinyurl.com/lv2fl7
B) http://tinyurl.com/njgouh
C) http://tinyurl.com/klkfc9
D) http://tinyurl.com/l6lt4g
1) applies to light (in vacuum) and sound (in air)
2) applies to light but not sound
3) applies to sound but not light
4) applies to neither light nor sound
Henry Wilson...www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

........the broad picture specialist.

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