Discussion:
The Mythology of 20th Century Science
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Michael Helland
2008-05-18 11:21:13 UTC
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1. Light always travels at c in a vacuum
2. Energy is never lost
3. The EM force has a infinite range
4. Space is expanding
5. The big bang happened
If the EM force had a finite range at its end we would observe
redshift, and the CMB.
The consequences of the EM force having a finite range seems to be
what we observe in astronomy
Myths 1 and 2 and 3 hold true, until cosmological redshift occurs.
Myths 4 and 5 were created to keep them true universally, and aren't
true at all.
Fact Mike will continue preaching this until he finds some new idea to
latch onto at which point he will abandon this who concept...
Fact Mike does not know science and thus is not qualified to make
these sweeping claims...
Myth Mike is qualified
Myth Mike has something to contribute to physics
Myth people in the physics group care what Mike thinks
There is my ten cents
Cheers
Where Helland seems to confuse myths with scientific theories,
working hypotheses and postulates, you seem to consume them
with jokes.
Funny :-)
At the point where you've reached dark energy, and inflation, and
problems with inflation that lead to firm stipulations about periods
of contraction that happened before the big bang...
... yes, that's mythology.
25 years ago some people thought big bang cosmology wasn't real
science.
Today, it's accepted as fact.
Helland also seems to confuse facts with scientific theories,
working hypotheses and postulates.
Are you saying that you think the big bang is a working hypothesis,
and nothing more?
Michael Helland
2008-05-18 11:30:08 UTC
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1. Light always travels at c in a vacuum
2. Energy is never lost
3. The EM force has a infinite range
4. Space is expanding
5. The big bang happened
If the EM force had a finite range at its end we would observe
redshift, and the CMB.
The consequences of the EM force having a finite range seems to be
what we observe in astronomy
Myths 1 and 2 and 3 hold true, until cosmological redshift occurs.
Myths 4 and 5 were created to keep them true universally, and aren't
true at all.
Fact Mike will continue preaching this until he finds some new idea to
latch onto at which point he will abandon this who concept...
Fact Mike does not know science and thus is not qualified to make
these sweeping claims...
Myth Mike is qualified
Myth Mike has something to contribute to physics
Myth people in the physics group care what Mike thinks
There is my ten cents
Cheers
Where Helland seems to confuse myths with scientific theories,
working hypotheses and postulates, you seem to consume them
with jokes.
Funny :-)
At the point where you've reached dark energy, and inflation, and
problems with inflation that lead to firm stipulations about periods
of contraction that happened before the big bang...
... yes, that's mythology.
25 years ago some people thought big bang cosmology wasn't real
science.
Today, it's accepted as fact.
Helland also seems to confuse facts with scientific theories,
working hypotheses and postulates.
So you don't accept the big bang as a fact?

You'd be surprised how many do.

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